How to make Firefox builds 17% faster

(blog.farre.se)

143 pontos | por mbitsnbites 1 dia atrás

6 comentários

  • mmastrac
    1 dia atrás
    Can you (err... buildcache) cache Rust proc-macros? I've been battling this with sccache and I'm now maintaining a 10-patch deep stack for the next.js build CI.

    Windows builds were ridiculously poor on cache hits rates too because of non-determinism that was not able to figure out.

    I'd be happy to test it out.

    • estebank
      1 dia atrás
      There was an experimental PR that treats proc macros as idempotent with the corresponding colpike speed up. I don't know what happened with it, and stabilization required a lot of design work to not break backcompat. But this is something in the team's radar.
      • staticassertion
        1 dia atrás
        Would it be possible to do somethign like editions for proc macros, or have crates establish "this is a v2 proc macro" or something? There are a lot of things I'd love to see change in a v2 but it'd all be breaking.
        • estebank
          1 dia atrás
          Yes, I think here are workable designs.
      • mmastrac
        1 dia atrás
        Do you have a link for this one? Would love to see it.
      • NooneAtAll3
        1 dia atrás
        what do you mean by idempotent and colpike?
        • estebank
          1 dia atrás
          Idempotent as in if the token stream in the input doesn't change, the cached result of the previous macro expansion is used during incremental, instead of being pessimistic and rerunning the macro.

          Colpike as in compile typo.

  • evmar
    1 dia atrás
    I’m not too familiar with Firefox builds. Why are clobber builds common? At first glance it seems weird to add a cache around your build system vs fixing your build system.
    • jagged-chisel
      1 dia atrás
      Define “fixing.” If you’re building on ephemeral containers, an external cache is necessary for files that don’t change.
  • allenrb
    1 dia atrás
    I guess “purge 17% of the code” is not the correct answer?
  • K0IN
    1 dia atrás
    wow, 17% is impressive with such an easy fix. i wonder if we could just build this as a separate project and pull the webidl files as a dependency.
    • rtpg
      1 dia atrás
      managing deps as a separate project introduces a lot of day-to-day annoyances, especially if the files are actually changed decently often.
  • Devorlon
    1 dia atrás
    Why compile code when ccache faster
    • amelius
      1 dia atrás
      Does ccache fetch compiled code from a central server using checksums?
  • shevy-java
    1 dia atrás
    So ... perhaps Mozilla should focus on user share dropping.

    I understand that speed is relevant, but focusing on that strategy does not really work when dinosaur-like extinction is around the corner.

    • tadfisher
      1 dia atrás
      I will just say this: it is unfortunate that you have chosen not to engage with the content of the article.
    • rebelwebmaster
      1 dia atrás
      Obviously it'll make the developer more efficient to spend more time twiddling his thumbs waiting for his code to compile rather than creating a simple build performance win that allows him to, you know, spend more time improving Firefox. Not to mention all the other developers who stand to benefit from faster builds.
    • jeffbee
      1 dia atrás
      Considering that Firefox mainly appeals to its own contributors, making the developer experience better would be important.