U.S. gender ratios by metro, ages 20-34

(getdatingphotos.com)

17 pontos | por nsokolsky 9 dias atrás

5 comentários

  • ravenstine
    9 dias atrás
    Hah! I once did essentially what this page does, albeit in SQLite with one of those SQL workbench apps. The data was pulled from US census data. Kind of a fun little project. I wish I had my laptop with me (currently backpacking through Europe) because I remember there were some interesting little insights I came across. For instance, I think I remember there was some weird town in the middle of nowhere in California where the residents are almost entirely 50+ women. I also remember Port Hueneme being heavily skewed towards men. It was also interesting seeing how the gender ratio could change significantly between neighborhoods and towns in the same city.

    The truth is I came up with this a few years ago because I wanted to try living in a different city and wanted to make sure it didn't have a worse gender ratio than the one I'd been living in. I'm a man so it made sense to find one that has more women than men. I know some people find it weird to use statistics for dating purposes. Well, I can't seem to not be a weird person no matter how hard I try, so I'll just own it. Anyhow, one thing that my project did that this one doesn't seem to is break down the numbers by people who are unmarried vs married, education levels, etc. It also included corrections based on data from Gallup in regards to what percentage of single people are interested in dating vs wanting to remain single. I remember there were some cases where a place looked like a sea of women but if I adjusted the numbers to exclude married people then the resulting gender ratios were way less skewed.

    Ultimately, I think culture matters more than gender ratios. I'm not gonna say where it was that I was loving for a while (which was influenced by my analysis), but I will say that I in part chose it for having a highly educated population; I found that I was definitely judged harshly for being a self taught person with no degree. Where I'm from very few people care that much. My point being you can move somewhere with lots more single women than men and end up no more successful at dating, if not less.

    • nsokolsky
      9 dias atrás
      > I remember there were some cases where a place looked like a sea of women but if I adjusted the numbers to exclude married people then the resulting gender ratios were way less skewed.

      Isn't there a married man for every married woman, meaning that the gender ratio of single people shouldn't be affected by the marriage numbers? I guess the only explanation would be that there's lots of women aged 30-34 married to men 35-39 in a given county?

      > It also included corrections based on data from Gallup in regards to what percentage of single people are interested in dating vs wanting to remain single

      There isn't granular data for this question, unfortunately - and the estimates vary widely from survey to survey. If you know of a data source that can provide at-least state level data for this, let me know!

      • BobaFloutist
        8 dias atrás
        >Isn't there a married man for every married woman, meaning that the gender ratio of single people shouldn't be affected by the marriage numbers? I guess the only explanation would be that there's lots of women aged 30-34 married to men 35-39 in a given county?

        I believe you have forgotten about the existence of gay marriage.

  • nsokolsky
    9 dias atrás
    Most HN readers already know about "Man Francisco" or "Man Jose", but this adds in some Census numbers to explain just how many men there are out there.
  • kaikai
    9 dias atrás
    Very curious to see if the <0.95 places are home to large women’s prisons. In the western states they seem pretty randomly located in rural areas.
    • nsokolsky
      9 dias atrás
      Women's prisons don't affect the ratios much but male prisons do because all (I think?) of them are located outside of populous metro counties.
  • garbawarb
    9 dias atrás
    Why are Southern states so female-heavy?
  • CSSer
    9 dias atrás
    As a single woman still barely holding onto this age bracket (praying to the power of anonymity right now), the fact that this exists and is so clearly targeted at men who honestly look fine for such a high price is sad. If you told me you spent this much money on your profile to meet me, I would immediately subtract whatever smart and attractive points I unconsciously added to you and add them to your insecurity score instead.

    edit: In case I must spell it out scoring people like this is weird. Also his own photo is terrible. I'm rarely so negative but seriously guys please save your money.

    • jfengel
      8 dias atrás
      The best photo for a dating site isn't one that makes you look good, but one that makes you look interesting. That's true now more than ever, when a very polished photo looks like AI.

      A good candid is much better. It conveys something of who you actually are: what you like to wear, what you like to do, and ideally looking sincerely happy.

      Women are generally less appearance-focused than men like to believe about them. Looking "fine" suffices for most women. Men are convinced that it's their appearance scaring off women, but in fact it's their personalities -- and an over-reliance on appearance is a strong indicator of an unpleasant or boring personality.

      (I give similar advice to women, who are more likely to focus on their own appearance. And that's unfortunately expected of them. But at least for me, a good candid is better than a studio shot. Since the custom is usually for men to open the conversation, it helps a lot to give me an opportunity to lead with something more insightful than "Gosh you're pretty.")

    • NunoSempere
      8 dias atrás
      > such a high price

      For the target audience this is about 5-10% of a month's income, and so is more like a reasonable optimization.

      > to meet me

      To improve the distribution of dates, which is more valuable than any single one.

    • nsokolsky
      9 dias atrás
      > Also his own photo is terrible.

      Thanks for the feedback, I've replaced my own photo with a good one.

      > I'm rarely so negative but seriously guys please save your money.

      You can do it all 100% free per the guide which describes the process end-to-end: https://nsokolsky.substack.com/p/how-to-take-a-perfect-datin...

      • CSSer
        8 dias atrás
        > You can do it all 100% free per the guide which describes the process end-to-end

        D:

        Nooo! Please read.

        Your before and afters are good. It's clear you have good qualities, but you can present and pitch them better. The stringent objective approach to your value-add is doing you a disservice. You allude to the fact that it's an art that takes time to get right yourself already.

        It's like unit tests vs integration tests. It's easy to think you're testing one thing when you're actually testing another.

        You present this as the idea that you understand what objectively makes a portrait flattering (true/verifiable), and the objective evaluation by women using a scoring rubric lends an air of ostensible credibility that suggests the kind of profiling you might see in an integration test named "Good Dating Profile Photo". I think what you have instead is unit tests for acceptability, inoffensiveness, and presentability plus your uniquely gathered insight into their personality. Fluoride makes toothpaste work, not the fact that 4 out of 5 dentists agree. Your learned insight is the fluoride. I guess maybe the men respond to the "4 out of 5" statement already, but it's so easily refutable.

        Using your photo as an example, I can see your face clearly now, but I also can't see where you are, your full profile, why you might be there, who you're with, or what you're doing. You also don't seem quite at ease. It's completely sterile. I wouldn't blink if I saw this on your LinkedIn or GitHub profile. On there all I'm trying to verify is that it's you! But on a dating profile I'm looking for a sense of you. I want to see your best qualities, which aren't always visually straightforward in men, presented in a flattering light. You help people find that! By the way, your other photo did have those qualities. I just couldn't see you!

    • jrflowers
      9 dias atrás
      > If you told me you spent this much money on your profile to meet me, I would immediately subtract whatever smart and attractive points I unconsciously added to you and add them to your insecurity score instead.

      Yeah for two thousand dollars a person could go on a trip and bring back an interesting story, or get therapy, or a puppy. Could probably do all three, actually.

      • sn9
        8 dias atrás
        Notably none of these matter on dating apps where profile pics actually help you get matches so you can actually talk to a person.
        • jrflowers
          8 dias atrás
          My man for two thousand dollars you could get a picture of yourself holding your Bichon Frisé at Livraria Lello
          • sn9
            7 dias atrás
            I don't have a dog and it would be very weird to get a dog for the sole purpose of having one for dating profile pics to meet women.
            • jrflowers
              7 dias atrás
              Yes. You should not get a dog if you don’t want a dog. It is a broad example because it is common for people to enjoy having a dog.

              It would not be weird though, for example, to visit The House on the Rock and take pictures while you’re there.

              • sn9
                6 dias atrás
                But the point is that taking bad pictures doesn't help.
        • CSSer
          8 dias atrás
          You don't take photos on trips or with dogs?
          • sn9
            7 dias atrás
            I don't have a dog and it would be very weird to get a dog for the sole purpose of having one for dating profile pics to meet women.
            • CSSer
              5 dias atrás
              The idea was getting a dog to improve your life, but agreed. That would be quite weird.
    • eudamoniac
      8 dias atrás
      It doesn't matter if you think it's weird; it works. I did the same process manually many years ago, with Photofeeler and statistics research, and it made an obvious difference. I am now married. Men don't really care if something is considered weird by random female commenters if it is getting them frequently laid and into romances. As they say, don't ask a fish how to fish.
      • jrflowers
        8 dias atrás
        This reads like it was written by a Ferengi
        • eudamoniac
          6 dias atrás
          We don't like to make substanceless quips here. Please save them for reddit.
          • jrflowers
            6 dias atrás
            You responded to somebody’s benign personal opinion by saying nobody cares because she’s a “female” (lol), compared women to fish, and wrote that you’re married (lmao).

            If “expert on women that can’t say ‘woman’” isn’t a bit it looks like somebody doing some Rules of Acquisition-posting from the Gamma Quadrant